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Welcome to Conversations with Fairy Whisperers, Angela! As a big fan of your work, it’s a dream come true to have you here with us. Tell us about yourself, how did you become a writer?
Thank you so much for inviting me along, Marquise. I’ve always been a very big reader, and one day I guess I just decided I would try being a writer—it must have been the right choice as I’ve been doing it for twenty years now.
I started by doing some study in creative writing, and while I was doing that, I was also able to get some pieces published, which encouraged me to keep going. I kind of began with short stories, then stepped up to novellas, then novels. I love what I do and can’t imagine doing anything else.
You have published several books in the Fantasy, Horror, and Paranormal genres, which I understand are your preferred genres. You have a characteristic storytelling style that incorporates fairy tales and diverse fae and supernatural folklore into your books, giving them a distinct Folkloric Fantasy vibe that sets them apart from mainstream Fantasy, and often gives them a fairy tale atmosphere. What fascinates you about fairy tales and how did you begin introducing them into your stories?
I think it started for me in childhood, having my mother read fairy tales to me at bedtime, so they were my earliest stories and have remained my favourites even as I grew up and became a writer myself. I think as you mature you realise that these stories are much more layered and complex than they at first appear, and I think that there’s still so much to be gained from them as both an adult reader and writer.
Fairy tales underpin so much of a person’s life, from thought patterns and beliefs to hope and dreams—and nightmares. I’m really interested in the dark side of such tales, the stuff that isn’t talked about so much in the Disneyfied versions. The first fairy tale I re-wrote was “The Little Match Girl,” which I remembered causing me many tears as a child because of its unfairness; so I think I started with that one first because it was a place to start unpicking a lot of my own fears.
What I try to do with my writing now, the stories in the Sourdough universe, is explore a world that has one foot in fantasy and the other in what looks like a familiar version of the ‘real’ world—so that even stories that don’t look like a rewriting of an older tale, still have a degree of recognizability because of some of their elements, so they feel familiar, like something you might have heard before, but which is still strange and unknown.
Of all the styles and formats fairy and folktales and retellings come in—pictorial, screen, graphic, illustrated, or written—which do you most favour?
Oh, I think it has to be written for me. I’m a writer, after all, and the joy is in the words and the style and the way an author is building a world for you! But I also love the graphic novel form—some of Mike Mignola’s Hellboy stories involve fairy and folktale reworkings and they are just incredible.
And illustrated versions can give incredible visual interpretations of the story—when an artist like Abigail Larson or Audrey Benjaminsen gets hold of a fairy tale the result can be truly amazing. And a film like The Company of Wolves or Pan’s Labyrinth have some absolutely stunning imagery, especially when there’s not such a concern about making everything pretty and sanitized—I think the rough and raw edges make it look more believable.
Your literary output is laden with elements and plots borrowed from fairy stories, some famous and some obscure. Do you have a favourite fairy tale or folktale? What aspects of it appeal to you personally, and why?
Ah, it’s always hard to pick a favourite! I love a lot of the “Donkeyskin” versions, like “All-kinds-of-fur,” “Mossycoat,” “Catskin,” et cetera. I think what appeals to me as a writer is that they’re all tales about girls saving themselves, not staying in terrible situations. It’s probably also why I love Bluebeard kinds of tales like “The Robber Bridegroom,” “Mr Fox,” “The Oxford Student,” et cetera. I’m a fan of self-saving-princess stories.
“Self-saving princesses” is a perfect description for my absolute favourite of all your work so far, the Sourdough Universe series, which comprises five full novels and several short stories, and some of them are easily recognised as retellings of a certain tale whilst others are only vaguely reminiscent of the inspiration or source tale. In your opinion, what makes a retelling stand out? What do you consider the joys and challenges of writing in this specific subgenre?
I think what makes a retelling stand out is how far you can push it from its origins, add in new details, but still have a hint of the original story still at its core.
There’s a wonderful version of the Robber bridegroom tale by Cassandra Khaw called “A Leash of Foxes, Their Stories Like Barter.” I won’t give the story away, but she’s shifted whose story it is to tell, which makes the whole ending come out differently. Then there’s Francesca Lia Block’s “Blue,” which is a modern version of Bluebeard set in LA—it has some familiar elements, but the story’s been stretched away from the original version, so it feels both familiar and strange. I think you can do this by shifting point of view, who your narrator is, changing the setting in terms of time period or cultural landscape; you might retain themes but attach them to different imagery or plot points.
The Sourdough Compendium is coming out in June this year, and it’s a reprint of all my mosaic collections set in this world—I think you can see from the original tales in the first collection, then to those in the second and third how I change the amount the stories are stretched and changed from their origins. I think I definitely got better at that the more writing practice I go, so the bones of the stories in the Sourdough section are probably more recognizable as old tales than those in the Bitterwood or Tallow-Wife sections. I think my joy in writing in this subgenre comes from examining “What can I do here that looks new, but feels familiar? How far can I push this? People will also see different things in your work, too—with A Forest, Darkly the main fairy tale in my head was “Hansel and Gretel,” but another reviewer saw “Little Red Riding Hood” in it far more strongly.
The five Sourdough novels tend to blend several tales into one story rather than use only one tale per story. Is this a deliberate choice on your part or just the way a story develops during the writing process? What fairy tale would you say is the most complicated to reinvent, and why?
I think what I do more of with the novels is have a particular idea or feeling or pain that I want to explore. So, while All the Murmuring Bones is a Gothic mystery set in opposition to “The Little Mermaid” (one of my most hated fairy tales), what I was wanting to do was see how I could upend the traditional Gothic girl stereotype. Part of that took the form of stripping mermaids back from the harmless little Ariels they’ve been turned into and making them into dangerous creatures again—and I suppose that fits in with making girls in gothic stories tough and dangerous again, and not such easy prey.
With The Path of Thorns, I wanted to upend the “governess goes to remote estate and falls in love with a terrible man and redeems him” cliché, so Asher Todd is a character who’s coming with her own agenda and she’s going to do damage. She’s the anti-Jane Eyre, really!
The Briar Book of the Dead has a lot of ghost story elements and the story question for me was “What if you’re not the chosen one but you’ve got to clean up everyone’s mess?”
For The Crimson Road, I was again picking at destinies and also the position of oldest children who are given responsibilities when they shouldn’t.
With A Forest, Darkly, I wanted to interrogate ideas about how and if we can make amends for things we did in the past, for whatever reasons.
The next novel, Our Lady of Battles, is looking at the idea of what happens if you’ve been trained to do something your whole life, and that is getting something for someone else – what happens when all your hard work is given away?
In your opinion, what fairy tale is the most complicated to reinvent, and why?
I’m honestly not sure which fairy tale is hardest to reinvent! I mean, you want to make the story different enough that a reader feels they’re getting something new! It’s something I kind of play with in the novels because I always have inserts of made-up lore or tales that are meant to be books from my characters’ lives or stories that they’re told, so there’s the element of changing details there that feel like they make the old stories feel strange and new.
We know you’re going to release The Sourdough Compendium in June, that collects all the short stories in the same universe as the novels, and of course we would love to read new stories, especially if you were to do a direct “Beauty and the Beast” retelling set in this universe [laugh]. Do you have any plans to write more Sourdough novels or stories?
Haha! I will see what I can do about a “Beauty and the Beast” reworking!
Our Lady of Battles is about a young woman who’s spent her life fighting to regain the throne of a city-state, Five Ports. She’s modelled herself on the city’s St Callwen, who was its founder. The book starts just after the last battle and I’m specifically looking at what happens now? All these Epic Fantasies generally finish with the big battle, but I want to see what happens after that—when the big goal has been achieved, who starts fighting again?
After that, the next novel is The Scarred Queen, which I think will be a pirate adventure? And I have three more Sourdough books pitched to Titan that I’m hoping will be contracted soon! So, yes, plans for more novels.
My first encounter with your work was the anthology A Feast of Sorrows,which contains three short stories entitled “The Jacaranda Wife,” “The Badger Bride,” and “Bearskin,” which made an impression on me and sent me looking for more. My library had two other anthologies, The Girl With No Hands and Other Tales and Sourdough and Other Stories, in which I found “The Chrysanthemum Bride” and “Porcelain Soul” respectively. These five stories have thematic similarities to“Beauty and the Beast,” a favourite tale on this site, in terms of transformation, monstrosity/otherness and humanity, and redemption. How did you come across the idea for these five stories, and what can you tell us about its creative process?
Oh gosh! “The Jacaranda Wife” was my attempt to write a fairy tale that could be said to be Australian—but I also wanted to acknowledge issues like colonization, rather than write something ‘pretty.’ I’d had the idea of a woman being born from a tree for a while and that became the core of it.
“The Badger Bride” was my attempt at something that would fit under the banner of “animal brides/husbands,” and I also love badgers and books, and wanted to see if I could combine them—and this story also links with two others in the Bitterwood collection (“The Burnt Moon” and “The Undone and the Divine”).
“Bearskin” came about because I’d been reading about bears in folklore and there’s an idea that bears are connected to healing and medicine in older cultures, plus this story is part of the Tallow-Wife collection and deals with ideas about lost children and also redemption.
“The Chrysanthemum Bride” came about after I read about a series of murders in China years ago where women were being murdered to be sold as “afterlife brides” to parents with dead, unmarried sons.
“Porcelain Soul” was in the Sourdough collection and it started after I read a quote from Rilke about how dolls are (and I’m going to quote this badly because it was a long time ago!) little abysses into which children pour affection with never getting anything back; the idea that came out of that was what if there were dollmakers who put a little sliver of their own soul into the toys they made?
Many authors who started their careers writing retellings later abandon fairy tale retellings for other genres and story ideas. Do you plan to continue writing retellings in your chosen genres or will you move on to other different projects?
I think I’ll definitely keep my hand in with fairy tales, I love them, after all, and I do think they’re infinitely adaptable.
I also write other things that are more contemporary Horror, short stories and novellas. The Cold House is a novella that came out last year and it’s very much a modern Horror story; Fitcher’s Bird, which is out this year is contemporary Horror AND a reworking of an old fairy tale. I’ve got a few more novellas in the pipeline that are more Horror and less fairy tale.
And speaking of your literary production, I counted fifteen books you have published as A. G. Slatter and thirty as Angela Slatter. That’s an impressive number for any author! Is there a book or books you are the proudest of, and why?
Thank you. I have been writing for a while now!
And again, it’s really hard to have a favourite amongst my book babies. There’s something I love about every one of them; I love Asher in The Path of Thorns, but I also really adore Mehrab in A Forest, Darkly—maybe their personalities are a bit alike, and Mehrab is who Asher would turn into at the same age. I really like Emlyn from Our Lady of Battles as I’m still getting to know her and dig into her personality, and I love Ellie Briar from The Briar Book of the Dead because she’s very pragmatic and has overcome so much and made hard decisions. I really love The Bitterwood Bible collection because it won a World Fantasy Award and I felt like writing that helped me kick my writing skills up a notch.
Some readers have compared you to Angela Carter, a heavyweight of fairy tale retellings, and you’ve paid homage to one of her most famous retellings, “In the Company of Wolves,” in one of your anthologies. Is there any other author who you view as a role model for your writing?
I think that tale is probably “Red Skein,” which is my version of “Little Red Riding Hood”—there were ideas I wanted to play with that felt like an extension of what Carter did in all her wolf stories.
Another role model for me is Tanith Lee, specifically her Flat Earth series, which also use that mosaic structure in each book. I think I probably learned that lovely interlinked structure from her, how best to place stories next to each other for maximum effect like choosing gems for a necklace.
If there was a Hall of Fame for retold fairy and folktales, which would you consider the best retold stories books and why are they worthy of inclusion in said Hall of Fame?
Oh wow, too hard to choose! Definitely you’d include Carter’s The Bloody Chamber, Tanith Lee’s Night’s Master, Emma Donoghue’s Kissing the Witch, a bunch of Christina Henry’s novels, Kell Woods’ After the Forest, Jodie Matthews’ Meet Me at the Surface is amazing and works with folklore, Emma Rose’s Lamb is amazingly mythical and original, C. J. Cooke’s The Ghost Woods, and I think Neil Sharpson’s The Burial Tide would have to go in, too.
That list is not complete!
But it’s an amazing list anyway! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Angela. We will be keeping an eye on your future books, which we hope shall be many more in the years to come.
You’re more than welcome!







